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Report: Islanders and Nassau County owe each other millions


The Islanders are already set to bolt out of Nassau County Coliseum in 2015 as it is, and that separation isn’t about to go quietly.

New York Newsday reports that the Islanders and their management company, SMG, owe the county millions of dollars in back utility bills and revenue that the team is supposed to share with them.

In the report, the Isles may owe the county over $600,000 in rent and over $2.4 million in electric bills. The team also apparently hasn’t paid the county their cut for parking fees and concessions. Being that kind of tenant in an apartment would get you evicted.

If that sounds bad for the Isles, the county apparently isn’t so clean either as they may owe the team money themselves.

The letter states that Nassau may owe the Islanders and SMG for repairs the team has made to the county-owned Nassau Coliseum , the Islanders’ arena in Uniondale . But the letter to Picker, written by the county’s acting director of the Division of Real Estate Services, Michael J. Kelly, says the debts outpace anything the county might owe by at least $2 million.

What a great situation this is. Basically both sides know their time together is coming to an end and it’s time to figure out best how to conduct the divorce. Like most separations, this one seems doomed to a future in court to figure things out. Either way, the Isles probably can’t wait to get to Brooklyn.

Brooklyn’s Barclays Center is game for hockey; Islanders’ future home?

Barclays Center, Brooklyn

While the Islanders and owner Charles Wang are trying to figure out what their Plan C is going to be as far as getting a new arena for the team after the arena referendum was shot down last week, their answer might lie to the west of Nassau County. No, we don’t mean Kanasas City either.

The Barclays Center is currently under construction in Brooklyn and will be the future home of the NBA’s New Jersey Nets. While the arena is rising in the New York City borough, some who are hopeful of keeping the Islanders in New York are pointing at Barclays Center as the place Wang should start taking a look at to bring the Islanders to.

Of course, the question that came up immediately was whether or not Barclays Center would be able to hold a NHL rink without any issues. After all, Barclays Center is being built specifically with basketball in mind and the hardwood takes up much less space than a rink. Fear not fans in New York, Barclays Center is good to go just in case the Islanders interests point towards Hipsterville, USA in Brooklyn. The New York Daily News’ Mark Morales is on the story.

Barclays Center CEO Brett Yormark isn’t ruling out a move to the new arena.

“The Barclays Center will have an ice rink that can support professional hockey,” Yormark said in a written statement. But, he added, “Our primary focus at the moment is to build the best sports and entertainment venue in the world.”

Local fans hope a move to the heart of Brooklyn will bring back the team’s magic.

In case you’re wondering, Brett Yormark is the brother of Florida Panthers president Michael Yormark. We’re sure he’s heard all about how great hockey is during the holidays.

Giving the Islanders an option that will be already built and ready to go once the Islanders’ lease with Nassau County Coliseum is up in 2015 gives Wang something to aim for should things get desperate. While Wang is being courted by neighboring Suffolk County for a potential landing place for the Islanders’ new arena, Barclays Center would give the Isles a prime location to fall into should things not pan out elsewhere on Long Island.

Brooklyn does have a vague history with professional hockey. From 1924 to 1942, the Brooklyn Americans (aka: New York Americans) called New York City home. The Americans, however, only practiced in Brooklyn and called Madison Square Garden home for their games along with the Rangers. We’re thinking that the same sort of arrangement these days would result in a constant turf war between Rangers and opposing fans. That said, having the Islanders be a bit closer to New York City and away from Long Island would make Rangers-Islanders games all the more hotly contested on the ice and in the stands. That’s rather terrifying.

This wouldn’t be an ideal plan for Wang, however, as he’s insistent on keeping the team on Long Island and closer to the majority of the team’s fan base. If things break down into further political battles across both Nassau and Suffolk Counties and Wang gets tired of the rat race there, picking things up and moving them to Brooklyn would be a better move than going to Quebec City or anywhere else eager to land a team.

Burning bridges with the fans you do have like that is something only every other team that’s relocated has done and ticking off Long Islanders doesn’t sound like a good move, question is would Isles fans trek to Brooklyn to watch their team on a regular basis?

The Islanders could be moving … elsewhere on Long Island

Charles Wang

The biggest issue for Islanders owner Charles Wang when his arena referendum was voted down by Nassau County residents on August 1, was about what he would do to find a way to get a new arena and keep the Islanders on Long Island. After all, Wang has said his dream is to bring the Stanley Cup back to Islanders fans on the Island and bring glory back to the franchise. When his and Nassau County executive Ed Mangano’s referendum was buried by voters, hope to do that seemed all but lost.

Ah, but Long Island is a big chunk of real estate and Nassau County isn’t the be-all, end-all location for the Islanders. Sure, there are rumors of bringing the Islanders to Brooklyn in New York City or to Queens, but there’s another county on Long Island that could work as a potential landing place for the team… You just have to go a bit further to east is all.

With the Islanders lease at the Nassau County Coliseum expiring in 2015 and the Islanders in need of a new venue to play in, a neighboring county is getting Wang’s attention as a place to potentially move the team to.

Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy says he welcomes the idea of the hockey team moving to the eastern end of the island that he represents, as long as it’s good for the team and for the community.

He said on Saturday he called team owner Charles Wang last week to talk about the idea. Messages to an Islanders spokesman were not immediately returned.

Suffolk County is the other, more eastern half of Long Island as opposed to Nassau County and for fans getting a new arena a bit further out on the Island would mean a bit longer of a drive or train ride to get to games. Of course, fans won’t mind that too much as long as it means keeping the team in the area and not potentially moving to an entirely new location in three to four years.

It’s good that Levy reached out to Wang since Nassau County has been less-than helpful to Wang and the Islanders with any and all of his ideas on building a new arena for the team there. Wang’s privately funded Lighthouse Project plans were routinely shot down by the Town of Hempstead supervisor Kate Murray and now the publicly funded arena project was shot down as well by the voters. How this situation plays out is pretty emblematic of how insane politics are these days where the government officials won’t let a madcap billionaire spend his own money to make a dire situation better but instead try to get the people to pony up their own money on a smaller plan instead.

That said, if Levy and Wang can come to some sort of agreement to build things up in Suffolk County, it’s a huge win for Wang as he gets to keep the team on Long Island and gets to run away from the idiotic politics in Nassau County. While it might be a bit more inconvenient for fans to travel a little bit further east on Long Island to get to games, it’s a small price to pay so long as Wang is staying away from the publicly funded route for any potential arena plans in Suffolk County.

Islanders arena referendum voted down by Nassau County residents; What next for Charles Wang?

Charles Wang, Ed Mangano, Kate Murray

Charles Wang’s dream of having a new arena built in Nassau County on Long Island for his New York Islanders was shot to pieces tonight by the voters he’d hoped would stand up for the team. By a margin of over 13%, Nassau County taxpayers voted against the $400 million proposed arena referendum.

With Wang and Nassau County executive Ed Mangano’s brain child being denied, Wang has to go back to the start once again in his designs to build a new arena on Long Island for his hockey team. This is the second time Wang has had his hopes dashed thanks to politics.

Wang’s Lighthouse Project, which saw him putting up all of his own money to develop the land around Nassau County Coliseum and give his team a new place to play, was repeatedly denied by the Town of Hempstead and vehemently opposed by the town supervisor Kate Murray. This time around, Mangano and Wang’s proposal sought out $400 million in public money to help build a new arena for the Islanders and a minor league baseball stadium on the grounds as well.

Wang has said already that if this referendum was shot down that he wasn’t going to keep trying to do something in Nassau County saying he’d met his wits end in dealing with the local politics. The result of this vote likely did nothing to change his mind on those matters. As Chris Botta of Islanders Point Blank notes, the next move is all up to Wang as to what happens next.

Mangano called it a “great day” because the people had their say. Wang said he was “disappointed” and “heartbroken,” but declined to discuss specific next steps. He also said he was really looking forward to a great season from his team this season.

Mangano and Wang could still try to work out a different deal with legislature and see if NIFA will approve it.

Or perhaps finally, for the first time since he bought the team eleven years ago, Wang will publicly dance with other municipalities.

There are possibilities still out there for Wang to work something out to keep the team in the area. There’s talk that the Isles could move to Brooklyn and play in the Barclays Center currently under construction for the NBA’s New Jersey Nets. There is concern, however, that the arena’s floor setup isn’t meant for hockey and would potentially cause problems. There’s also the chance that Wang explores building options in Queens. The team wouldn’t quite be on Long Island, but they’d stay in the immediate area.

There’s also the possibility that if nothing is done by the time Wang’s lease with Nassau Coliseum in 2015 he’ll already have plans in place to relocate the team outside of the tri-state area. That would make for an absolute last resort move for Wang and the Islanders.

New York State Democratic chairman Jay Jacobs, a major opponent of the referendum, tweeted that he believes Wang and Nassau County will get a deal worked out in the future to privately fund an arena in the county for the Islanders to play at. That leaves us wondering where his support for the Lighthouse Project was when the Town of Hempstead was busy shooing that away.

As for Wang, he posted his comments on the defeat of the referendum on the Islanders website. He’s sad but focused.

I’m heartbroken that this was not passed.  We’re disappointed that the referendum pertaining to the arena was not voted by the people of Nassau County as being a move in the right direction for growth.  I feel that the sound bites ruled the day and not the facts.  Right now, it’s an emotional time and we’re not going to make any comments on any specific next steps.

We’re committed to the Nassau Coliseum until the year 2015 and like we’ve said all along, we will honor our lease.

The result casts a dark cloud on the future of the team on Long Island and while this is still far from over with, this referendum was viewed as the Islanders’ best shot yet of getting a new arena and continuing to call the island home for the foreseeable future. Now it’s up to Wang to figure out how he wants to tackle things next and whether or not he’ll be able to do so without major government interference.

Rivalry put on hold: Current and former Rangers lend support for upcoming Long Island arena vote

New York Rangers v New York Islanders

Many Islanders fans will tell you they hate just about everything to do with the Rangers. Likewise, many Rangers will share the same feelings towards anything related to the Islanders organization. Consider it one of the perks of a bitter rivalry that spans almost 40 years. But as much as the two sides love to hate one another, dire situations tend to bring out the best in one another. For the Islanders, they face an important Nassau County vote on August 1st regarding public funding for a new arena in Long Island. Note: this is not the same thing as the ill-fated Lighthouse Project that was killed last summer by Kate Murray and the rest of the Town of Hempstead. If they are unable to secure funding for a better home, the Islanders may be forced to look outside of Long Island for a future home.

Fans and players alike on both sides of the New York hockey aisle know that an Islanders departure would ruin something special. They may dislike one another on the ice—but everyone seems to love the rivalry. If the Islanders were forced to move, it would kill something distinctive for all hockey fans in the area—it would be the same for both Islanders and Rangers fans.

A few former Rangers players shared their thoughts on the rivalry and how important it is to keep the Islanders on Long Island. Rod Gilbert scored over 400 goals and over 1000 points over parts of 18 seasons with the Rangers. Even though he played his entire career with the Broadway Blueshirts, he wants the best for Islanders fans:

“I want to see this situation with the arena finally get settled and I know I speak for the Rangers organization when I say that I want to see the Islanders franchise strong forever and ever. I also want their fans to have a team that will never play anywhere else except where they won those Stanley Cups. It’s time the Islanders and their fans were rewarded.”

Fellow Rangers legend and Hall of Famer Brian Leetch shared similar feelings on the arena issue and towards the fans on Long Island:

“Islanders fans have proven their support for the team. It would be bad for the area’s hockey fans and for the NHL to lose this rivalry. The health of the Islanders is important to the league, I know that. It’s disappointing to see the friction over the new arena, but I really hope it gets figured out and the Islanders are able to be competitive for a long, long time. The fans are there, there’s no question in my mind about that. The fans have proven it before. There are a lot who are just waiting to get back in there and fill the place.”

Without getting too deep into the politics of the situation, it’s great to see hockey people getting together for the greater good. Politicians have stated that the referendum (if it passes) would cost Long Island residents $58 per household—a number that has been proven wrong by the folks over at Lighthouse Hockey. Like anything else, the more successful the arena (and team) are in the standings and box office, the more successful they’ll be in the profit column. The Islanders have the potential to make money with a new arena and exciting, young team over the next few years. Members of the Rangers organization know it—we’ll see if the residents in Long Island share their vision.

Of course, there are always other alternatives if the arena deal fails at ballot box.

“…to an Islanders fan, the cost of replacing the Islanders with a Target, Dave and Busters and an Olive Garden is way, way more than $17 per year. But if you are an arena skeptic, I assume that doesn’t count for much.”

Not even Rangers fans would want to see that.