Rivalry renewed: How the Flyers set the Penguins on fire in just two signings

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The Flyers and Penguins have never been known to play peaceable hockey against each other. The teams dislike each other, they have a host of Pennsylvania state pride on the line when they face off, and the kind of burning hate that’s carried these two teams through the last 30 + years in the NHL.

With free agency day providing drama of its own all over the NHL, the arms race the Philadelphia Flyers got in when they unloaded Jeff Carter and Mike Richards and acquired Jakub Voracek, Wayne Simmonds, Brayden Schenn, and Ilya Bryzgalov was already well under way. What they did today proved to be a direct shot at their cross-state rivals in Pittsburgh in the most painful of ways.

For the last few weeks, the Penguins were engaged in talks with their own future unrestricted free agent-to-be in Maxime Talbot as well as former Penguins legend Jaromir Jagr. The talks with Jagr were especially fascinating in that there were reports even as late as last night that a deal could be imminent. When word broke today that the Penguins were pulling their offer for Jagr, many Pens fans were heartbroken to see that their former star wouldn’t be coming back to Pittsburgh. What they didn’t expect was what happened next.

Word came down this afternoon that Jagr did reach an agreement on a one year, $3.3 million deal with a team and that team was none other than the rival Flyers. With that news tearing open a wound with Pens fans that made them instantly go back to hating Jagr, word broke shortly after that that Talbot too had signed with the Flyers, this time on a five-year, $9 million deal.

To say that Penguins fans are unhappy about this would be a wild understatement. From the guys at Pensblog, they’re short and sweet to the point.

They wanted the money and they got it. Ray Shero is too smart to overpay a 39-year old and a fourth liner, even if those players are two of the most legendary and well-known names in franchise history.

No one will ever forget Jagr in the 90s and Talbot in the 2009 playoffs. But they wear orange now so they’re dead to us. On to the next one.

The Penguins did their part to fill the day with their own news in signing forward Steve Sullivan away from Nashville on a one year deal, but the missed opportunity in getting Jagr and then losing Talbot both to the Flyers is something that strikes a nerve. It instantly makes the first matchup between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia on December 8 in Philadelphia must-see TV. Even more remarkable yet, their first game in Pittsburgh takes place on December 29 when HBO’s 24/7 cameras will be following the Flyers around leading up to the 2012 Winter Classic in Philadelphia on January 2.

Picture that scene: The former Penguins legend Jagr makes his first return to Pittsburgh since 2008 when he was with the New York Rangers after an offseason that saw him cozy up to and then deny his former team. With Talbot in tow and, we’d hope, both Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin back on the ice for the Penguins in what will be a wild atmosphere in CONSOL Energy Center… Let’s just say we’d like to get tickets to that game as well as a complimentary riot shield.

For a rivalry that was already a boisterous one in the NHL, today’s signings by Philadelphia help turn it into a powder keg of emotion. About the one way the Penguins could try to get one back on the Flyers would be to sign Simon Gagne, but even that doesn’t compare to having two of the guys that were instrumental in different ways in winning the Penguins’ three Stanley Cups trade in their black and gold for orange and black. All we know for now is that things just got a lot more fascinating in Pennsylvania and we’re counting down the days until December to see these two go after each other.

These 2017 NHL Draft picks lacked hype … but not swagger

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The interview process for draft prospects must be a real beating. Then again, it’s also an opportunity for hopefuls to push back.

In the case of two smaller prospects, it meant providing some swagger in their answers, possibly impressing their new teams. If nothing else, Kailer Yamamoto and Michael DiPietro generated some refreshingly confident quotes.

One would assume that the Edmonton Oilers picked Yamamoto with the 22nd choice for more than just a great answer alone … but still.

Nice, right?

Sportsnet’s Jeff Marek related a similar story about DiPietro, who the Vancouver Canucks nabbed with the 64th pick.

Funny story: When one team at the NHL told him “We don’t think you can play in the NHL with our team, you’re too small” at the combine, he fired back with “well, I guess you have a problem with winning, then.” How do you not like that?

If nothing else, those two aren’t shy.

As a bonus story, check out the bumpy path Will Reilly – aka the “Mr. Irrelevant” of the 2017 NHL Draft – took to being chosen last overall by the Pittsburgh Penguins, via Puck Daddy’s Sean Leahy. From the sound of things, there are worse feelings than going 217th.

The 2017 NHL Draft may have been “pumped down” from a hype perspective, yet it sounds like many of these prospects at least bring some moxie to the table.

Kings, Golden Knights labeled 2017 NHL Draft winners; Bruins, not so much

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It’s nearly certain that we won’t be able to determine the “winners and losers” of the 2017 NHL Draft until, say, 2022. If not later.

Still, what fun is that?

Quite a few outlets pegged some winners and losers, though sometimes the choices were more about themes like nations or player types than specific teams.

For example: Puck Daddy gives a thumbs down to the “green room” experiment.

Let’s take a look at some of the consensus picks.

Winners

Vegas Golden Knights

GM George McPhee was dealt a bad hand when it comes to the lottery draft, so he instead made his own luck. And then he selected three players who could improve this team going forward.

Sportsnet’s Jeff Marek especially liked the last two of their three first-rounders (Nick Suzuki and Erik Brannstrom), viewing Cody Glass as more of a no-brainer. Plenty of others were on board.

Los Angeles Kings

Gabe Vilardi fell to Los Angeles, whether it was because of shaky skating or some other reason. That potential steal (and some other shrewd moves) impressed the Hockey News’ Ryan Kennedy, who assembled draft profiles for PHT.

Again, Vilardi’s loss was considered the Kings’ gain, as slower skaters were considered losers by the likes of Post Media’s Michael Traikos.

Philadelphia Flyers

Boy, Ron Hextall is good at this thing, isn’t he? Philly drew high marks even beyond the layup of landing Nolan Patrick. The main area of disagreement revolved around the Brayden Schenn trade, though plenty came out on Hextall’s side there, too.

Arizona Coyotes

Boy, that negative press didn’t last long, did it? Between landing Niklas Hjalmarsson, Derek Stepan, and Antti Raanta in trades and savvy picks, they were a popular choice.

Themes

Smaller players, Sweden, and Finland drew semi-serious mentions as “winners.”

Losers

Boston Bruins

The perception is that they played it too safe.

Colorado Avalanche, for now?

OK, this was more about draft weekend than picks, but people are criticizing Joe Sakic for standing pat. That could change, but the negative sentiment is there.

Detroit Red Wings

Another common choice. Some believe that their draft was the worst of them all, which isn’t great considering the declining opinion of GM Ken Holland overall.

New York Rangers

Lias Andersson was viewed as a reach by plenty, and his connection to the trade to Arizona might intensify the scrutiny.

Themes

Not a great draft for Russian-born players and/or guys who don’t skate quite swiftly.

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So, those are some of the near-consensus choices for winners and losers, via the brave souls who made rapid reactions to the 2017 NHL Draft.

Ducks ink D Holzer to two-year deal reportedly worth $1.8M

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As the dust settled on the expansion draft, the Anaheim Ducks’ defense is coming into focus.

Sunday continued that pattern; the Ducks signed Korbinian Holzer to a two-year contract worth $1.8 million, according to TVA’s Renaud Lavoie.

You can break down the Ducks defense as more expensive players (Hampus Lindholm, Sami Vatanen, Cam Fowler, and Kevin Bieksa) and cheaper ones (Holzer, Brandon Montour, and Josh Manson).

Only Vatanen, Lindholm and Holzer see contracts that go beyond 2017-18 – at least without an extension yet for the likes of Fowler and Manson – so Holzer provides a little bit of certainty.

Is the $900K a minor overpay, though? Holzer played in 32 games for the Ducks this season after appearing in 29 in 2015-16. His impact has been pretty minimal, generating seven points while averaging 13:31 in ice time per contest (down from 14:45 the previous season).

Granted he may get more opportunities to show what he’s capable of if the Ducks lose another piece. Then again, at 29, the Ducks likely know what they have.

2017 Hockey Hall of Fame class to be named Monday; Selanne + who?

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The 2017 Hockey Hall of Fame class is expected to be announced on Monday, and every indication is that Teemu Selanne will be on the list. Beyond that, well, there are a lot of question marks.

NHL.com notes that there’s at least a possibility that Selanne will be the only NHL name to be part of this class, which would mark a first since 2010 (when Dino Ciccarelli was the lone addition).

It’s a nice way to continue what’s been a buffet for hockey fans: the 2017 Stanley Cup Final’s conclusion, the expansion draft and then the 2017 NHL Draft. The HHOF announcements are a nice appetizer before free agency gets, well, frenzied?

“The Finnish Flash” was also an obvious top choice in last year’s poll to see who should be in the class.

Now, that doesn’t mean he is the only interesting name.

For one thing, Daniel Alfredsson will be eligible for the first time, much like Selanne. “Alf” falls in the “Maybe” category with some interesting, debatable other options: Mark Recchi, Dave Andreychuk, Alex Mogilny, Jeremy Roenick, Paul Kariya, Chris Osgood, and more.

The 2016 Hockey Hall of Fame class included Eric Lindros, Rogie Vachon, Sergei Makarov, and Pat Quinn.