Philadelphia won the Pronger trade now … but what about later?


prongerflyers.jpgDuring last year’s draft, the Anaheim Ducks traded Chris Pronger to the Philadelphia Flyers for what seemed like a bounty of picks and players. In all, the Ducks received two first round draft picks, a conditional third round pick, a Flyers first-rounder in Luca Sbisa and streaky sniper Joffrey Lupul. When the trade went down, many people asked if the Flyers gave up too much. My reaction was “So much for Sidney Crosby and the Penguins having an easy run through the Eastern Conference …”

As usual, there’s more to this trade than the personnel involved. Pronger wanted a contract extension, but the Ducks a) wanted to get younger and b) perhaps chose Scott Niedermayer instead of Pronger. One of them had to go and the Flyers swiftly signed Pronger to a 35+ contract (7 years, $34.45 million) that could very well be destructive in the long term.

Let’s break down the deal, piece-by-piece.

Flyers received: Pronger

Pronger’s cap hit this year: $6.25 million
Pronger’s cap hit going forward: $4.92 million
2009-10 season stats: 10 goals, 45 assists for 55 points
2009-10 playoff stats: 4 goals, 10 assists for 14 points

I think Detroit Red Wings GM Ken Holland said it best in this piece in the Toronto Sun.

“He does things that other players can’t do, haven’t done, don’t know how to do. And he just does them easily,” said Ken Holland, general manager of the Detroit Red Wings, who admitted to being “pretty damn happy” when the Ducks traded Pronger to the Eastern Conference.

“It’s no accident what happens when he joins a team. This isn’t any kind of fluke. This is a special player doing special things very few people in the history of our sport can do.”

(Ryan Dingle was also thrown into the deal.)

After the jump, discussion of the Ducks’ side of the coin.

lupul.jpgDucks received:

1. Two first round draft picks

  • This year’s first rounder will be super-weak. Since the Flyers made it to the Stanley Cup finals, the Ducks best possible pick will be the second to last one. It’s funny that earlier this season, Anaheim was wondering if they’d get a lottery pick.
  • The other first rounder was in the 2009 draft, which the Ducks traded to Columbus.

2. Luca Sbisa

8 games played in the regular season, 0 points. 875k cap hit when he plays in the NHL.

When the trade happened, people acted as if Sbisa is The Next Big Thing. On one hand, it’s far too early to tell if it’s too late for Sbisa. Blueliners take a long, long time to develop in many cases.

But that’s the thing, too, with trading established stars for prospects. You trade a sure thing for a mystery. Sbisa might still be the biggest “piece” for the Ducks, so his output will go a long way in deciding if this trade was a success. (Again, though, this wasn’t just a strict personnel move, but rather a very money-driven decision.)

3. Joffrey Lupul

14 points in 26 games played. $4.25 million cap hit

To me, Lupul is where the deal goes a bit sour for the Ducks. At 26-years-old, I doubt that Lupul will ever do much better than his 53-point career high. Pronger scored 55 points this season, as a defenseman.

Is the $2 million in cap savings really worth it for Anaheim, especially since Pronger gives a team a chance to earn that back by, you know, increasing your team’s chances to make the playoffs?

(The Ducks also received a conditional third round pick)

Too early to say who won

Right now, it’s hard to say that the Flyers regret sending all those pieces away for Pronger. There’s no denying that, in the short term, Philadelphia won the trade. Yet Pronger’s 35+ contract, those draft picks, Luca Sbisa’s probable development … and even the remote possibility Lupul will become a better piece make the longterm outlook far from clear.

Spoiler alert: Oilers shut out Jets to win the Heritage Classic

WINNIPEG, MANITOBA - OCTOBER 23:  Darnell Nurse #25 of the Edmonton Oilers beats Connor Hellebuyck #37 of the Winnipeg Jets during the 2016 Tim Hortons NHL Heritage Classic hockey game on October 23, 2016 at Investors Group Field in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. (Photo by Jason Halstead /Getty Images)
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There was no miracle comeback this time for the Winnipeg Jets. No heroics from highly touted rookie Patrik Laine.

Puck drop at the 2016 Heritage Classic at Investors Group Field was delayed due to glare from the sun. When the game did begin, the Jets couldn’t get anything going, falling behind in the second period against the visiting Edmonton Oilers.

The Oilers leave Winnipeg with a 3-0 victory.

It started with Mark Letestu opening the scoring with a short-handed goal after a mistake from Dustin Byfuglien at the Edmonton blue line.

The Oilers continued to ruin the party with a goal from Darnell Nurse — in the box when Letestu scored — just 1:46 later. And Zack Kassian made it that much more difficult for the Jets to come back with another second-period goal for Edmonton. Three goals in just about eight minutes and it was game over.

The Jets’ record falls to 2-3 — a slow start that puts them at the bottom of a very difficult Central Division.

And their schedule likely won’t do them any favors, either, with home-and-home sets against Dallas and Washington, not to mention some back-to-back games on the road.

Meanwhile, the Oilers have had a completely different start to their season.

A week ago, head coach Todd McLellan blistered his team for a brutal performance on home ice against the Buffalo Sabres. Goalie Cam Talbot wasn’t good at all, allowing a goal from center ice.

A distant memory, it seems. Talbot stopped all 31 shots he faced for the shut out Sunday.

The message from that effort versus Buffalo — the lone blemish on Edmonton’s schedule so far — seems to have been received from the Oilers.

They went on to beat Carolina and St. Louis, and then they took control of Sunday’s contest in the middle period and didn’t give Winnipeg anything from there.

Wait, what? Letestu’s short-handed goal opens the scoring in Heritage Classic

PHILADELPHIA, PA - MARCH 03: Mark Letestu #55 of the Edmonton Oilers skates against the Philadelphia Flyers at the Wells Fargo Center on March 3, 2016 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Oilers shutout the Flyers 4-0.  (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)
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With a power play in the second period, the Winnipeg Jets had a good opportunity to take the lead on home ice in the Heritage Classic.

But instead, it was the Edmonton Oilers cashing in.

Mark Letestu opened the scoring with a short-handed goal, beating Connor Hellebuyck on the glove side on a breakaway after Jets defenseman Dustin Byfuglien whiffed on the puck at the blue line.

Letestu took advntage. That’s his second goal of the season, both coming on the penalty kill.

The Oilers were able to further silence the crowd in Winnipeg, as Darnell Nurse, right out of the penalty box, buried a Connor McDavid pass just 1:46 after Letestu’s goal.

Bylsma: ‘We need to get more’ out of Reinhart

EDMONTON, AB - OCTOBER 16:  Sam Reinhart #23 of the Buffalo Sabres warms up before the game against the Edmonton Oilers on October 16, 2016 at Rogers Place in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. (Photo by Codie McLachlan/Getty Images)
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Sam Reinhart has two assists through four games this season, and Buffalo Sabres head coach Dan Bylsma has made a move with the hope of getting the 20-year-old forward going offensively.

As per John Vogl of the Buffalo News on Sunday, Reinhart has been moved to the middle between Tyler Ennis and Zemgus Girgensons, while Matt Moulson was moved to the top line with Ryan O'Reilly and Kyle Okposo.

Reinhart, a 23-goal scorer from last season, had two assists through the first two games, but has been kept off the score sheet in Buffalo’s last two contests.

Outside of that six-goal outburst versus Edmonton last weekend, scoring has been an issue for the Sabres early in the season. So adjustments to the forward combinations is to be expected.

“Sam needs to get a little bit more feet moving, a little bit more speed to his game,” said Bylsma, as per the Buffalo News.

“He’s made some great plays for us early on – power play and five-on-five for the Okposo goal – but we need to get more out of Sam, moving his feet more, playing a little bit faster, a little bit quicker and providing a little bit more offense for our team.”

The Sabres, without two key forwards in Jack Eichel and Evander Kane with long-term injuries, which would help explain the team’s early offensive issues, conclude a four-game road trip Tuesday against the Philadelphia Flyers.

The Sabres also called up forward Hudson Fasching and defenseman Casey Nelson from Rochester in the AHL.

P.K. Subban clearly had a blast as Titans’ 12th man

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When P.K. Subban shows up at your event, you expect to be entertained. And he basically always delivers.

His trend of delighting Nashville Predators fans continued on Sunday, as he made a glorious appearance as the Tennessee Titans’ “12th Man.”

If you close your eyes and picture a scene, you probably wouldn’t be that far off; it still doesn’t make this any less fantastic. (Even if the Titans eventually dropped a 34-26 loss to the Colts.)

The photo he posted on his personal Twitter account was great:

This GIF of him using a sword feels like it will get some mileage on Twitter. After totally convincing other people about your sports/political/hot-dog-being-a-sandwich opinion, and then drop the P.K. dagger:

Was the Titans jersey not lasting for long predictable or unexpected?

Opinion: this was the Titans game to attend since they fell a yard short of beating the Rams.