The Green Men of Vancouver: "We're kinda like folk heroes."

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GreenMen3.jpgBy now, you’ve most likely seen and heard about the Green Men. The
unofficial new mascots of Vancouver, they became internet
sensations back in December when they were caught on camera taunting
Dave Scatchard of the Nashville Predators
while he sat in the penalty box at GM Place. They have since made periodic
appearances at Canucks home games, mysteriously showing up to random
games and becoming something of a phenomenon in Vancouver.

April 15th, in a home playoff game against the LA Kings, the Green Men
rose to the ranks of hockey celebrity they never thought possible. With
Jack Johnson in the penalty box, two men dressed in green spandex
plastered themselves to the glass
in what seemed to be impossible
positions; the video was instantly put on YouTube and their ‘antics’
have been viewed over 1 million times in just over a week.

The “Green Man” phenomenon has stemmed from the popular show “It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia”, spawning green men appearances all over the sports world. The Green Men in Vancouver have been able to take the meme to an extremely popular level, based on some crazy antics and the wonders of YouTube.

PHT was
able to talk with Sully and Force, as they prefer to be known, as they
prepare for another night at GM Place and another night of motivating an
already boisterous crowd. The two college students, preferring their
identities kept secret, never thought that this would become as big as
it has. They thought it would just be a one-time thing after the initial
game against Nashville in December, but after seeing the online
response to their appearance YouTube decided that if the people wanted
more, they’d give them more.

“We were in demand,” Sully says.
“Gotta keep the people happy.”

After a week of radio and
television appearances, multiple interviews and countless pictures with
strangers, Sully and Force have embraced their newfound celebrity. It’s
not something they expected.

“It’s really cool actually.
Originally, we just kinda figured that
this wouldn’t catch on. It was just a gimmick you know….a couple of
guys, a mascot kind of thing.”

Sully says that it’s become much
more than just fun as a mascot, however. It’s something…more.

kinda like folk heroes out here now,” he says.
“I don’t want to say we’re superheroes, but we kinda fit that persona:
we wear spandex, we do what’s right for the community and everybody
kinda follows suit. We affect things when we’re at a game, and that’s
kinda cool.

“We can make them cheer at the drop of a dime and
that’s a
power that very few possess, I think.”

GreenMen.jpgThe crowds have certainly
started to respond to the two men in green, as they’ve taken on the job
of getting the fans at the game as loud and as boisterous as possible.
Taking up their seats next to the visitor’s penalty box, part of that
job is to make life miserable for the opposing players. It may not work
exactly as planned, but they certainly try.

“They try to ignore
us. We’ve gotten some pretty good reaction from them.
Drew Doughty was chirping at us a little bit. They try to ignore us,
but we try to obstruct their view of the play on the other end, we bang
on the glass so they can’t hear the countdown for when they’re supposed
to come out of the box.

“We just try to make it a rough atmosphere
for those two minutes.”

While Sully and Force were captured just
acting odd and banging on the glass against Nashville, they took it to a
completely different level against the Kings. Doing a handstand on the
seat, pressing yourself against the glass and being as obnoxious as
possible is one quick way to get thrown out of the game. Yet Sully says
that the officials haven’t been as rough on them as one might expect.

the Nashville game the first time we banged on the glass the security
was tright there in our face. The next game, as they saw how big it was
they let us pretty much do our thing,” says Sully. “After the LA game,
when I went up
on the chair there and put my junk up on the glass in a headstand,
security was right there again. I think once they saw how big it was on
YouTube and stuff, they backed down a bit.”

“But they’re always
there in our face, we always have to deal with them.”

With their
popularity, which has turned into a nifty website and an incredibly
popular Facebook fan page
, has come more demand for their presence at
home games. They say they have a winning record at Canucks games, and
would love to keep doing what must be done to help out the team from the
stands. Yet for two college students, tickets on the glass in the
playoffs aren’t cheap. So while they go to as many games as possible,
they say that ” it would definitely help if we got some help from the
Canucks or

GreenMen2.jpgDespite the financial hardships involved in being local
heroes, there is also the added burden of becoming insanely popular.
When everyone knows who you are and you’re dressed in bright green
spandex, it can make getting around at the game fairly difficult, says

“You have no idea.
After a game…it’s a lot better now that we’re in warmer weather. When
we went to games around Christmas, just to get from the building to the
parking lot…we get swarmed. We probably take another 50 to 100
pictures with people outside GM Place. Around Christmas time it was
freezing cold, so that’s a bit of an issue when you’re wearing tight

The Green Men will continue their quest to make life
miserable for opposing players, doing what must be done to get the crowd
into a game. They also haven’t limited themselves to Canucks games,
saying that they might make some appearances Seattle Seahawks games this
year as well.

“We go
where we’re needed,” says Sully.

“Like a true superhero.”

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WATCH LIVE: Los Angeles Kings at Minnesota Wild

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NBCSN’s coverage of the 2017-18 season continues on Monday night when the Los Angeles Kings visit the Minnesota Wild. Puck drop is scheduled for 8 p.m. ET. You can catch all of the action on NBCSN or on our Live Stream.


Tobias RiederAnze KopitarDustin Brown
Tanner PearsonJeff CarterTrevor Lewis
Kyle CliffordAdrian KempeTyler Toffoli
Andy AndreoffNate ThompsonTorrey Mitchell

Derek ForbortDrew Doughty
Alec MartinezDion Phaneuf
Jake MuzzinChristian Folin

Starting goalie: Jonathan Quick

[NHL on NBCSN: Kings, Wild continue pursuit of important points]


Jason ZuckerEric StaalNino Niederreiter
Zach PariseMikko KoivuMikael Granlund
Tyler EnnisMatt CullenCharlie Coyle
Marcus FolignoJoel Eriksson EkDaniel Winnik

Ryan SuterMatt Dumba
Jonas Brodin – Ryan Murphy
Nick SeelerNate Prosser

Starting goalie: Devan Dubnyk

NHL GMs are at least trying to fix goalie interference reviews

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Much like the NFL’s headaches when it comes to what is or isn’t a catch, a simple stroll around Hockey Twitter will often unearth loud groans about goalie interference reviews. At least when people aren’t grumbling about offside goal reviews, that is.

From the viewpoints of reporters on hand for the latest round of GM meetings, it sounds like the league is at least attempting to sort out the latest mess.

Granted, you could sense some of the fatigue on this issue from what Lightning GM Steve Yzerman had to say about it, via’s Dan Rosen:

“You can clarify the standards, but each referee and everyone, you and I, has a different opinion,” Yzerman said. “Within that room everyone has a little different opinion on did it impact the goaltender. It’s subjective. No one is ever going to agree 100 percent.”

Fair enough, but much of the frustration stems from the sheer confusion at hand, as there doesn’t seem to be a clear standard. It’s one thing to disagree with how an infraction is called, but at the moment, many feel like there’s far too much variation in calls.

With that in mind, some GMs apparently hope to tweak the process by, ideally, limiting the number of people who are making the snap decisions on goalie interference:

By “centralizing,” it could mean leaving that decision to “The Situation Room,” as Rosen explains:

The meetings reportedly included test cases for goalie interference, with Rosen noting that GMs and media alike had trouble reaching a consensus on certain examples. That helps to illuminate the challenge at hand, but again, many people would probably be at least a bit happier if it was easier to anticipate what would and would not be called as interference.

Quite a few numbers were thrown around about coaches challenges. ESPN’s Emily Kaplan shared a slide from the NHL that would argue that offside challenges have dropped off, likely because a failed challenge results in a delay of game penalty, but goalie interference remains a drag on the game.

It’s a vaguely depressing yet informative chart:

Ultimately, it seems like the league still has quite a bit to sort through, with totally fun subplots including the notion that goalies are being coached to embellish interference. Again, lots of fun.

For fans of the sport, it’s about walking the line between getting it right and not grinding too many games to a screeching halt. One might ponder carrying over the delay of game penalty to challenging goalie interference alongside offside reviews, but that might not fly:

Maybe Habs GM Marc Bergevin is correct in saying that just a small number of calls go wrong. Still, these challenges are slowing down games about two minutes at a time. That might not sound like much, though when it happens in the flow of an exciting back-and-forth contest, it can be a real killer.

Let’s hope they improve the process, even if it ends up being a work in progress.

James O’Brien is a writer for Pro Hockey Talk on NBC Sports. Drop him a line at or follow him on Twitter @cyclelikesedins.

Injury updates: Penguins’ Murray, others deal with concussions

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NHL teams provided injury news updates on Monday, with the most noteworthy bits revolving around players dealing with concussions. Let’s sort through that mixed bag:

  • First, we’ll begin with promising news. Pittsburgh Penguins head coach Mike Sullivan considers Matt Murray to be “an option” to play on Tuesday against the New York Islanders. That said, it’s a preliminary viewpoint, as Sullivan wants to see how Murray handles practice.

You’d get the impression that the optimism is high despite that caveat, as the Penguins sent Tristan Jarry back to the AHL today. That could still change, but the team must feel a lot more confident about Murray being ready for the postseason.

[The 2018 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs begin April 11 on the networks of NBC]

Actually, it’s worth questioning whether it’s really worth risking Price’s health in meaningless games for Montreal, especially when you note that he’s frequently suffered from bad injury luck lately. Sure, he wants to play; that ambition is part of what makes him great. Concussions can be tricky, though, and you wonder if the reward would justify the risks involved.

  • Winnipeg Jets defenseman Jacob Trouba is in “concussion protocol,” according to TSN’s Sara Orlesky. Trouba will reportedly see specialists, which isn’t that shocking considering how shaken up he looked after getting the worst of a hard collision with Jamie Benn of the Dallas Stars:


  • Also brutal: Noah Hanifin is out indefinitely in dealing with a concussion, via the Carolina Hurricanes.

The 21-year-old set a new career-high with eight goals this season, and despite being limited to 71 games, he matched last season’s peak of 29 points. Hanifin is starting to show why he was the fifth pick of the 2015 NHL Draft as part of a stacked Hurricanes defense, yet much like his team, it looks like his season’s going to end on a low note.

Hopefully he’ll be able to rebound fully in 2018-19.

James O’Brien is a writer for Pro Hockey Talk on NBC Sports. Drop him a line at or follow him on Twitter @cyclelikesedins.

Bruins give Donato big opportunity in NHL debut

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The silver lining for injuries in sports is that one player’s absence opens the door for someone else to prove their worth.

(Kurt Warner and Tom Brady gave that sentence a big thumbs up.)

With the regular season winding down, the Boston Bruins are hoping to push the Tampa Bay Lightning for the Atlantic Division title and the conference’s top seed, but they’re probably just as hopeful that some key players will be healthy by the playoffs. That ship has sailed for Anders Bjork, yet they’re crossing their fingers regarding players dealing with a variety of maladies: Patrice Bergeron, Zdeno Chara, David Backes, Jake DeBrusk and Charlie McAvoy.

[The 2018 NHL Stanley Cup playoffs begin April 11 on the networks of NBC]

Such injuries might at least partially explain the timing of the Ryan Donato signing, and they’ll absolutely open up a chance for him to echo McAvoy in showing that he’s a quick study at the NHL level. Keith Jones and Jeremy Roenick discussed as much on Sunday:

[NHL Playoff Push: Bruins look to test Blue Jackets]

Donato already likely made an impact on viewers who saw him shine for the U.S. during the 2018 Winter Olympics, and logically enough, he’s slated to join fellow Olympian Brian Gionta (and Noel Acciari) on the team’s third line. Gionta came away impressed with Donato from their brief run together, as the Bruins website notes:

“He was unreal,” Gionta said of Donato’s five-goal, six-point Olympic performance. “He was probably our best player over there. Extremely composed, great shot, great release, great hockey sense. It will all equate well to this level as well.”

While that’s not too shabby an opportunity for his NHL debut, it’s special teams where Donato gets a fascinating, golden opportunity. Via Left Wing Lock, it appears as though Donato will be on the top unit along with Brad Marchand, David Pastrnak, Rick Nash, and Torey Krug.


Update: Before Monday’s game began, it was revealed that Rick Nash is also dealing with an injury, so Donato’s opportunity may be even more promising.


Wow. One couldn’t set the table much better in Boston, particularly for a player who’s touted for a high hockey IQ.

There’s also the matter of having hockey in his blood.

This situation serves as a full-circle moment for Donato and Patrice Bergeron. You see, Bergeron says he learned a lot from Ryan’s father Ted Donato as an 18-year-old rookie with the Bruins:

Even if Donato struggles at first – certainly a possibility, considering that he’s jumping right into the mix, including tonight’s game against a peaking Blue Jackets team – it’s a great story.

Donato has a real chance to make an impact, though. If he can help an already-impressive Bruins team roll out a deeper scoring attack, then watch out. Tonight’s game against Columbus stands as his first opportunity to show that he can hang at the NHL level, and maybe plant the seed that he deserves a significant role even once other forwards get healthy.

James O’Brien is a writer for Pro Hockey Talk on NBC Sports. Drop him a line at or follow him on Twitter @cyclelikesedins.